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moonwaiting 被查封不知道大家有何感想 ?

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发表于 2021-11-15 16:37:33 | 显示全部楼层
FrankUnderwood 发表于 2021-11-15 12:42
I am not in the business of telling others "how to feel," but as much as I respect Andy as a perso ...

I’m still not convinced the victims are as innocent as it sounds, and the definition of trafficking is rather blurry. But I acknowledge your point,

In terms of guns, I know there are lots of rich gun hobbyists who legally own large number of guns. Andy wasn’t charged with illegally owning these guns. The actual charge is “careless storage of a firearm”.
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发表于 2021-11-15 17:34:37 | 显示全部楼层
This industry is over, 以后只能自己打飞机了~
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发表于 2021-11-15 17:44:18 | 显示全部楼层
alexzxcvbn 发表于 2021-11-15 16:37
I’m still not convinced the victims are as innocent as it sounds, and the definition of trafficki ...

That is a fair enough point about the guns, but I don't think that a man with kids like Andy should have had a gun, let alone multiple GUNS laying around unsafely stored. To me the guns are a very telling clue of what was going on in Andy's head the days or months prior to his apprehension.

If you have to have guns at your house, at arms reach ready to be used at anytime, this man was not dealing in pussy alone anymore. A pimp is a low level criminal in the eyes of the law, he could have kept on being a pimp for years but something happened...

Regarding the girls not being as innocent, that comment is deplorable. Trafficking is an asymptomatic crime with no obvious signs from the victim that they are being trafficked. They don't always have violence involved to coerce them to do what they do, so you can't say that because you didn't see a scar or bruise then the girls must be lying.

There is many ways to coerce, force and manipulate people into doing what you want. There is psychological abuse, financial abuse, and emotional abuse. As far as we know, he could have been threatening the girls with telling their parents, or something happening to a relative, or what I did hear about was large loans being made and the girls "forced" to pay back.

When you are dealing with undocumented girls that makes it so much easier to intimidate them too.

You could have been getting a BBBJ CIM from that girl but you would have no idea that in the back of her mind she is suffering from abuse. Keep that in mind, and as much as some of us want to believe that Andy was not a bad guy, that ship has sailed as they say in English. He crossed a line my friend.
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发表于 2021-11-15 20:33:59 | 显示全部楼层
so sad my favorite agency got busted.
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发表于 2021-11-16 09:54:39 | 显示全部楼层
so sad, MW was pretty good
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发表于 2021-11-16 18:32:30 | 显示全部楼层
I was a loyal MW costumer, and it was a really bad news about what happened to them...
However I'm more concerned about the girls, specially one of them (Mari)...
I hope she is okay...
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发表于 2021-11-17 06:11:08 | 显示全部楼层
So sad to hear this. My best experience was with a girl of MW, although I haven’t visited MW after that a lot.  There is always a soft spot…
With that said, the owner crossed a line if he did abuse the girls and must face consequences. Maybe I’m naïve. I think there are plenty of girls who volunteer to do this trade. Coercion should never be used.
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